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https://t.me/nevzorovtv/25211

Russian priest wants to take "Constantinople" "back". I hope somebody in MIT will read this. Of course the Qirim was occupied just as a potential springboard for the conquest of Straits and Istanbul.

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Pan-Turkism once emerged strongly in Turkey in the early 1990s, when the collapse of the Soviet Union led to the independence of several Turkic-speaking republics in Central Asia and the Caucasus.

The problem with Pan-Türkism is that new independent Türkic states, existing and future, should be ruled again from a far capital. Not from Moscow, or Bejing, or Tehran, or Baghdad, but from Ankara. Yes, I am fully agree with the words of Zia Gökalp, that our motherland is neither Türkey, nor Türkestan, but eternal and holy Turan land, but the question is, who said that this eternal and holy land Turan should be ruled by Anatolians and from Ankara. Why not from Astana, for example? Or from Tashkent? I think the best option would be that Türkic peoples in non-Türkic empires, i.e. in China, in Russia, and maybe in Iran, and also in Iraq and Syria, will get their independence and own states, but not in ONE BIG STATE with the capital "somewhere in a far land" again. We should communicate and co-operate, but not in a new Empire. Every nationalist understands, that it is better to have own national state, even a small one, than a big colonial empire.

Another question is on what principles the Pan-Türkism should be built. Should only peoples with Türkic languages belong there, or also peoples with partially Türkic blood, but speaking another languages, should belong too? Bosnians, Ukrainians, Hungarians, Bulgarians, even Bavarians and Burgundians have some part of Türkic blood. But I do not think that they want to be ruled from Ankara, even if we think about the Kurultaj in Hungary, it is traditionally much nearer to Qazaq and Nogays, the nomadic world of the Great Steppe, and not of Rum (look, which music is used in this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYxj9w_LE1M and who is playing Qobyz there).

The question about the Türkic race is even more complicated. If we look at Atatürk or Atsiz we see total European men. We can confuse Atsiz with Italian Evola even, and, well, Türkeş looked also like a Southern Italian, but not as a typical Köktürk from far land of Ötüken. Anatolian Türks, Qirimliler, Azeri Türks on one hand, and Qazaqs and Sahalar-Yakutians on another are all "linguistically" Türks, but they do not belong to the same race. But when we look at old Arnold Schwarzenegger, we can surely suggest Türkic ancestors in his Austrian family tree. (No big mystery, Huns and Avars and Bulgars all could be assimilated by Germans in Alps). So with racial approach, Arnie should come "in", but Atatürk and Atsiz have to go "out".

That is why I do not think the Pan-Türkism can be real and viable, just like Pan-Slavism and Pan-Germanism were. I prefer the term Turanism, which I understand as independence and statehood of Türkic and Mongolian peoples, their co-operation and trade and cultural exchanges, but without the building of a new united Türkic Super-State.

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